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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V93 #1439
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 9 Dec 93 Volume 93 : Issue 1439
-
- Today's Topics:
- 10m sked needed
- 94 MHz L.O./ Case Ground???????
- Alinco DJF1T-HP dead
- ARRL's callsign admin position
- Diodes of config. on Knw
- ENDEAVOUR
- Hamblaster updates
- HYPOCRISY WARNING (was Re: Pyramid Schemes)
- LX1NW QSL
- Reporting Constant QRM: who?
- Scratchi, January, 1960 (2 msgs)
- Scratchi article
- Weird QRM
- Windows Based Ham Programs
-
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-
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-
- We trust that readers are intelligent enough to realize that all text
- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 21:20:52 GMT
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!djadams@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: 10m sked needed
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Greetings! I've put up a new 10m dipole and would like to try it out
- this weekend. I'll be calling on USB around 28.350khz between 1500
- and 1600 this saturday....(that should be 28.350Mhz, by the way)...
- Could anyone with their radios on make a special effort to listen for
- my call? Thanx.
-
- 73 de Dave, N9UXU
-
-
- David J Adams, N9UXU Internet: djadams@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
- Amiga User and Flow Cytometry Advocate
- Looking for a mobile 2m and/or 70cm rig
- Conure Society of America. "Push the button Frank..."
- --- -. .-.. -.-- .- -- .. --. .-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 17:18:04 GMT
- From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu
- Subject: 94 MHz L.O./ Case Ground???????
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm building a 94 MHz Local Oscillator, and the transistor has a case
- ground pin. Should I ground it or cut it off? It's an NPN transistor
- in a TO-72 case (little metal can).
- Many thanks,
- Galen, KF0YJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 3 Dec 1993 09:49:26 -0500
- From: swrinde!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!hpuerca.atl.hp.com!hpuerca!edh@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Alinco DJF1T-HP dead
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In<1993Dec2.181411.1575@venus.ic.cmc.ca>pas@jupitercmc.ca (Peter Stokes) writes:
-
- >When looking for an HT, I was warned to keep away from the
- >Alinco rigs due to reliability problems. I bought a Yaesu
- >FT530. No problems with it in its first 4 months of life.
- >Peter
-
- !!Bad enough that Peter shyed away from Alinco on the basis
- of the rumor-mill. I'm glad he is happy with his Yaesu; they
- make fine products. Unfortunate that he felt the need to post
- a negative comment on the Alinco _without_ any personal use!!
-
- For the record: My house of hams has a DJ-160, two DJ-580's,
- and a DR-590 mounted in my truck using the remote head kit.
- We have dropped the h/t's, used them till the case filled with
- rain water, drained the battery packs sequentially during long
- days of public service work, and overheated the poor things by
- using them in some pretty trying packet work (when our Kenwood
- mobile rig used for packet gave up the ghost). They bounce around
- in our vehicles without complaint and have never failed in use.
- I've never gotten a bad signal report while using any of these
- radios. Other than the unfortunate choice of placement of the
- SCAN button on the DR-590, I have no operational compliants.
-
- The above is all hands-on. And yes, I own other brands as well;
- the original question was about the DJ-F1. I have used the F1;
- a friend owns one and is very happy with it. Using his F1 helped
- pursuade me to buy the DJ-580's for my wife and myself. My friend
- is not alone in his satisfaction with the DJ-F1 as he convinced
- some other hams to get the same radio.
-
- It is unfortunate about the original poster experiencing a failure.
- Electronic devices, radio and otherwise, are funny about that. I
- _could_ comment on failures I've personnally seen on other ham
- rigs. That would also beg the question of the Alinco rigs. So far,
- my personal use has been highly satisfactory; I have seen enough
- other satisfied users to conclude I am not an isolated case.
-
- Cheers & 73
- Ed Humphries--N5RCK
- Hewlett Packard NARC Atlanta GA
- edh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 14:47:53 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!greg@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: ARRL's callsign admin position
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2dvabk$3og@mailer.fsu.edu> michaela@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu (Michael Christie) writes:
- >
- >Re: Call Sign Administration Hassle
- >
- >Nice set of comments, Brian. You are right on target.
- >
- >ARRL needs to proceed slowly and responsibly on this one. I thought
- >they had their "politically smart" hat on these days, but after this
- >recent nonesense, I'm not so sure.
-
- I see no indication that the ARRL has changed the fundamental assumption
- which it has held over the years. Despite changing the wording of the
- 'Ham Radio Creed,' or whatever that rhetoric is, their fundamental
- position remains the same. (Does anyone remember the dreck under
- 'The Radio Amateur is Loyal' heading? The bit about 'he owes his
- amateur radio to the ARRL and offers it his unswerving loyalty?' That's
- what has changed, some time following the infamous ARRL vs. Wayne Green
- 'support incentive licensing or we'll sue you and drive you out of
- business' stuff.)
-
- As far as I can tell, the ARRL's position is that they are the one and only
- voice of Amateur Radio in the US, whatever position the Board takes is
- immediately the one with which the majority of US Amateurs concur, and
- any interface to Federal policymakers should be through them, and them
- alone.
-
- As evidence for this, I take:
-
- 1) The League's history of opposing any petition which does not
- come through them, as a matter of routine (a.k.a. 'not invented
- here' syndrome')
-
- 2) Having been told by League officers and staffers that if I
- left the ARRL, I was giving up all of my representation in
- Washington (as if I don't vote in Federal elections?).
-
- 3) Having watched, over the years, the ARRL's vigorous
- opposition to anyone or anything which presumed to encroach
- on 'its' territory. Particularly unfortunate, IMO, have been
- some of the underhanded efforts to silence anyone who would
- either compete for a role or present an opposing opinion.
-
- In the ARRL's defense, I think that much of this has been in the honest
- belief that it is necessary to present the FCC bureaucracy with a united
- front. The latter is probably sensible, where possible. However, the
- League, in its zeal to do the best thing for the hobby, has all too
- often forgotten that this is a pluralistic society. I suspect that
- such oversight has caused particular rancor because of the number of
- people who are aware that it is only in a pluralistic society that
- ordinary folk are given the key (ahem) or microphone to a radio station
- which is capable of blanketing the entire society, indeed the globe, with
- the ideas of those ordinary folk.
-
- It seems to me that the Board of Directors would do well, in presenting
- position papers to the FCC, to pursue a policy of also bringing forward
- an occasional 'dissenting opinion,' from within the ranks of amateur
- radio. In doing so, they would increase their stock by demonstrating that
- they truly ARE representative of amateur radio as a whole.
-
- As far as I can tell, (my literature collection goes back pretty far), the
- ARRL had few enemies from within the ranks until the mid-sixties and the
- incentive licensing debacle (and by 'debacle,' I don't mean the fact that
- we now have incentive licensing, I mean the manner in which the parties
- interacted at the time). That was almost thirty years ago.
-
- It seems to me that it's high time that the ARRL board went to some
- lengths to extend an olive branch to the enemies made by another board,
- a generation ago. And, in the process, to try and understand how previous
- boards made enemies, and modify practices such that this ideal of being
- truly representative can be acheived. After thirty years, it's clear that
- it won't be achieved by trying to whip the rank and file into line.
-
- Greg
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 17:16:13 GMT
- From: sdd.hp.com!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!news.inesc.pt!animal.inescn.pt!bart!avale@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Diodes of config. on Knw
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hello,
-
- I have one Kenwood TR751E all mode 2m, and I need use the
- tone encoder TU-7 that I already have.
- In the schematic and tecnical manual do not refer what to do with the config.
- diodes D3, D4, D5, D6 and D7 on the Control Unit. What are the individual funcion
- of each other. The D14 is on the owner manual and is to config. the step, but
- the others!? I only need to inform the unit that he has the TU-7 installed.
-
- If anyone of you have this kind of information, or the email/internet of Kenwood,
- I will thank you a lot.
-
- 73, Antonio (CT1DZY) E-mail: avale@bart.inescn.pt
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Dec 93 13:32:25 GMT
- From: ogicse!emory!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!gatech!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: ENDEAVOUR
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >
- > Does anybody know what frequency/frequencies the Endeavour shuttle-craft
- > will be using on it's latest mission to repair the Hubble?
- > Graham (VE7 BBZ)
- >
- >
- This was posted last week on r.r.scanner:
-
- >From: msaran@pt.olympus.net (Mark Saran)
- >Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner
- >Subject: heard sts last pm
- >Date: 5 Dec 1993 16:59:08 -0800
-
- Had a fun experience last night. Before I went to bed I put all the STS
- freq's that I knew of in my scanner. Because I am so far north (20 miles
- from Canada) I knew that I was right on the edge of STS-61's footprint and
- there would be some passes in the middle of the night. I was surprised to
- be able to hear about 1 min. of audio from an eva. The signal faded very
- fast.
- Sorry I can't tell you what freq or time. - I choose to go back to sleep
- -so much for my dedication to the hobby.
-
- Possible freq.'s are:
-
- 296.8 MHz - air to ground, or orbiter to suit
- 259.7 MHz - air to ground, or suit to orbiter
- 279.0 MHz - suit to orbiter or suit to suit
- 243.0 MHz - standard Mil aircraft emergency freq.
- Others 259.8 MHz 324.9838 MHz
-
- Good hunting
- --
- Mark Saran
- msaran@pt.olympus.net
-
-
-
- Peter Laws <plaws@comp.uark.edu> | "That's the President of the United States
- n5uwy@ka5bml.ar.usa.noam | you're talking about, pinhead."-VP Al Gore
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 18:01:52 GMT
- From: amiserv!vpnet!tellab5!jwa@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Hamblaster updates
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The Hamblaster Update
-
- Over the past several months I posted updates about a
- DSP "The Hamblaster" that Will Torgrim (N9PEA) and myself
- are developing.
-
- We are focusing our efforts on a packet modem that allows
- the user to improve H.F. reception by interfacing the Ham-
- blaster (a PC compatable DSP sound board) to a transceiver
- and a packet or all mode TNC. Modems/filters for RTTY,
- Packtor, Amtor are also under developement and are compatable
- with the same control panal software.
-
- Here are the latest developements
-
- 1) The packet modem is loaded from a disk file and allows the
- user to interface to his radio using an A to A (analog to
- analog) connection. The DSP outputs a regenerated FSK
- signal that can be tuned to match the TNC or RTTY modem.
- The DSP also has a digital connection (A to D) for inter
- facing directly to the TNC's digital logic. I use a cable
- that connects a PK232 via the external modem port.
-
- 2) We do Windows! I spent about 16 hours this weekend on
- the Windows software. There's a receive/demodulator
- control panal that allows me to control the FSK demo-
- dulator's filter center frequency using a mouse driven
- slidebar. There's also an on screen tuning indicator that
- mirrors the tuning slidebar. You tune the filter by moving
- the mouse cursor over the filter tune slide bar button and
- when you press the left mouse button the slide bar button
- moves.
-
- 3) A new option allows me to lock the tuning indicator to the
- "Filter Tune" slide bar. The Hamblaster sends frequency in-
- formation, that it hears at the output of the first filter,
- to the PC via the PC's I/O epansion port. Even in noisy
- conditions it can count the center frequency of an FSK signal.
- The tuning indicator does jump around in noisy conditions
-
- 4) A new Windows control panel provides an on screen digital
- storage oscilloscope. By pressing the "SNAP SHOT" button,
- you can capture 4 signals and display the traces in a graphics
- window. The traces can be resized or you can move the window
- left or right. About 100 ms per trace is aquired.
-
-
- The modem block diagram
-
- / Mark filt\
- input--filter1--limiter--filter2 --slicer--data
- \ Space filt/
-
- You can select or attach the 4 traces to any of the signals that
- are displayed on a block diagram in the o-scope control panal.
- The Hamblaster captures the signals and stores them in it's own
- memory. Then the PC gets the data from the Hamblaster via the
- PC I/O port and stores it in the PC memory. Then the software
- displays the aquisition by getting the data from the PC RAM.
- The process takes about 2 to 3 seconds (the DOS version takes
- about 1/2 the time to execute).
-
- 5) Using Windows multitasking, you can run the Hamblaster software
- and your favorate a packet program (like PC Packratt). I was even
- able to run two instances of the same Hamblaster software. Both
- control panals displayed the tune bar and responded it real time.
- I also got two o-scope aquisitions.
-
-
- Ongoing developments;
-
- 1 Post detection carrier detect.
- 2 HDL protocol decoding
- 3 Morse code detection/regeneration
- 4 Adaptive voice filter.
- 5 FFT analysis.
- 6 Sound recording.
- 7 DTMF & PL tone detection.
-
- ---
- Jack Albert Fellow Radio Hacker
- Tele (708) 378-6201
- Tellabs Operations, Inc. FAX (708) 378-4590
- 1000 Remington Blvd. jwa@tellabs.com
- Bolingbrook, IL 60440
- *
- * *
- * * *
- * * * * * * *
- * * *
- * *
- *
- THE BOWTIE FILTER
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 21:46:52 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!msattler@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: HYPOCRISY WARNING (was Re: Pyramid Schemes)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Dana Myers (myers@cypress.West.Sun.COM) wrote:
-
- : Goodness, you mean Jeff "CENSORSHIP WARNING" Herman actually supports
- : the censorship of someone's Usenet access based on the content of the messages
- : they send?
-
- There *is* a difference between an opinion you don't like and
- an "intent to defraud" (in the words of the U.S. Postal Service).
- Anyone pushing Ponzi (pyramid) schemes deserves to be flogged
- with a mag-mount 2m antennae (IMHO).
- --
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Michael S. Sattler msattler@netcom.com +1 (415) 621-2903
- Digital Jungle Software Encrypt now; ask me how. (finger for PGP key)
-
- All that is required for evil to triumph is
- for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 13:35:00 -0600
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!menudo.uh.edu!nuchat!cld9!mario.campos@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: LX1NW QSL
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Quoting HAM@WAM.UMD.EDU to ALL concerning LX1NW QSL info?:
-
- +- HAM@WAM.UMD.EDU to ALL --------------------------------------------+
- | |
- |sible QSL manager before I go and spend a buck and a half to get this|
- |card? |
- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+
-
- A buck and a half! God, I sent more than that 15 years ago to get needed
- cards - $2 & $3. Loosen up - send the guy a couple green stamps!
-
-
-
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
- Mario A. Campos - N6ALS | mario.campos@nitelog.com | DXCC #24824
- Monterey, CA 93940 USA | N6ALS@K6LY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA | WAS #33960
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Message written at 8:23am, on Friday, December 3, 1993.
- ---
- * [R2.00o] * Usenet * Nitelog BBS * Monterey CA * 408-655-1096
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 21:50:07 GMT
- From: netcomsv!netcom.com!msattler@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: Reporting Constant QRM: who?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Randy (randy@cyphyn.radnet.com) wrote:
- : For the past couple of years this one guy ( who everyone knows ) has
- : been causing malicious QRM...
-
- : WHO do we send our logs of all his doings to?
-
- Luck Hurder at ARRL says that you should contact your local
- ARRL person. These are (allegedly) listed in QST.
- --
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Michael S. Sattler msattler@netcom.com +1 (415) 621-2903
- Digital Jungle Software Encrypt now; ask me how. (finger for PGP key)
-
- All that is required for evil to triumph is
- for {wo}men of good will to do nothing.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 8 Dec 93 21:57:21 GMT
- From: hayes!bcoleman@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Scratchi, January, 1960
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <gregCHo43F.9o4@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
- >
- > However, the posting of racist material without some explanation is
- > distinctly unwelcome, and may be extremely offensive to some who read
- > this forum.
-
- Granted. Why don't we have a show of hands of those who were offended by
- the Scratchi editorial?
-
- > I would hope that we would endeavor to include as many people as possible
- > in this forum; blindly posting racially offensive material is not the
- > way to do that.
-
- Greg, I think you are overreacting. While the material in Scratchi may have
- the potential for offense, let's be clear here that someone was actually
- offended before we send Myron away.
-
- All this political correctness is enough to make one puke.
-
- --
- Bill Coleman, AA4LR ! CIS: 76067,2327 AppleLink: D1958
- Principal Software Engineer ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
- Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
- POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
- Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
- Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 20:27:56 GMT
- From: olivea!news.bu.edu!att!cbnewsm!hellman@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Scratchi, January, 1960
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Val: since you have a 40 mtr dipole, you might convert it into a center fed
- wire to try it on 80. What you want to do is short the inner and outer coax
- conductors and then make a short single wire connecction to your tuner
- (such that you DO NOT just ground the tuner output). That will turn your
- dipole into an L antenna with the feedline radiating as (hopefully) a vertical.
- It sometimes works surprisingly well-- just be careful --- the coax connector
- will be at rf ---- .
- If your feedline is ladder line, I believe this is called a Marconi antenna,
- but it can be used with coax ---I do this to use my 80 meter dipole on 40
- and some people do this to use their 80 meter antenna on 160.
- 73 Shel Darack WA2UBK dara@physics.att.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 9 Dec 93 08:16:27 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Scratchi article
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I think that the Scratchi text was not blatantly racist, but does portray
- a stereotype of Asians. This stereotype (poor English but high technical
- skills, use of the word "honorable" like in cheesy movies) isn't outrightly
- negative but subtly so. It's like one kid picking on another by imitating
- him in some way. But when the victim complains, the teacher doesn't see it,
- so nothing happens. Still, it might bother the imitated, even though the
- intent probably (I hope!) wasn't to slander people of Asian descent.
-
- I realize that this article is over 30 years old, and can be viewed as a
- sort of "museum piece" today. Also, I hope that Asians today are
- thick-skinned enough to not be bothered by this. But I still think we need
- to watch out for subtle racism. I'm not big into PC, but I do believe that
- people shouldn't try to offend others.
-
- Sincerely,
- Scott Gigot, N9VOM
- segigot@students.wisc.edu
-
- The ticket was the easy part; now I need to get the FCC to send me a
- radio!
-
- P.S. 7 weeks, 2 days for the license to arrive
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 21:17:08 GMT
- From: nntp.ucsb.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!silver.ucs.indiana.edu!djadams@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Weird QRM
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Greetings! I was working 80m the other night sending out my usual
- 559 signal (I've GOT to get a better antenna up!), when I got a weird
- sounding signal on my frequency. It sounded exactly like the annoying tone
- you get when you leave the phone off the hook.
-
- Well...I thought this was strange so, I moved up about 10 khz to a clear
- freq. Called QRL?...no answer...started tapping CQ...after about 3 calls,
- it's back....moved back to my old freq...qrl...clear...cq a few times...
- tone is back and LOUD!..changed a few more times and it kept following
- me..I eventually turned the radio off in frustration...Does anyone know
- what this might be?...or is it a who?
-
- Thanks!
-
- 73 de Dave, N9UXU
-
- David J Adams, N9UXU Internet: djadams@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
- Amiga User and Flow Cytometry Advocate
- Looking for a mobile 2m and/or 70cm rig
- Conure Society of America. "Push the button Frank..."
- --- -. .-.. -.-- .- -- .. --. .-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 22:19:48 GMT
- From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!cupnews0.cup.hp.com!jholly@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Windows Based Ham Programs
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Kenneth L Florence (klf@ecdcsvr.tredydev.unisys.com) wrote:
- : Hi All, Besides the commercial packages available, are there any Windows
- : based ahm programs available. What I am specifically looking for are a
- : fair to gud Windows Packet pgm and a Windows based Rig keyer pgm. I hv
- : seen a commercial package that is a complete logging, packet, rig control
- : package (Logview, Packview, Rigview), but feel the performance of the Log
- : database is terrible (at least for a 386sx!). If you hv seen anything gud
- : or hv written one urself, plz let me know. Tnks. De KA3PLS, Ken....
-
- There is a shareware product called writelog(?). I think it is on Simtel
- and the mirrors. Don't know if it does rig control. My experience is that
- windows on a 386sx leaves much to be desired....but then again I work on
- a fairly good box at work. DXlog and others work fine from a DOS environment.
- For contesting there is CT, NA, and N6TR's programs. For CQP, SS and WPX
- AE6Y puts out a freeware window program.
-
- 73, Jim, WA6SDM
- jholly@cup.hp.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
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